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  • General about sampling the upper oceans, where to sample

  • Ocean models will tie together all types of sampling devices.

  • Combining models and sensors to generate sensing strategy to acquire desirable data

  • Data fusion is still under work

  • Remote sensing will be able to improve the data from AUVs and ASVs

  • The sensor equipped AUV is able to adapt its behaviour behavior to sample the desired data

  • Remote sensing depth capabilites capabilities depends on what you are looking at, up to 10s meters

  • Should use HSI at several altitudes to confirm atmospheric correction algorthimsalgorithms, and other types of corrections.

    • Difficult to do properly, need to be done carefully

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  • Don’t think the right Powerpoint was uploaded to the dropbox folder.

  • A moving platform will mix the space and time dimension, which needs a model to properly separate. This is difficult if not impossible.

  • Need to carefully plan data sampling schemes to not regret it in hindsight

  • Discovers unexpected natural phenomena.

  • Mackerel is one of the most valuable resources in the norwegian Norwegian oceans

  • Use LIdars for water penetrating observations

    • Airplanes were expensive, but lidars are now much more commercially available.

    • Should be used in drones, could be used i future satellites?

  • We are moving into a regime that is unknown with HSI, which makes it impossible to use a good model to verify, to begin with.

  • The challenges of observing the ocean is due to the high rate dynamic effects.

  • Acoustics are the only observations who preserve spatial and temporal considerations.

  • A lot of data is being used to make and validate models to observe oceanographic events.

  • Acoustics might be an underused type of sensor in AUVs, Gliders, buoys, etc.

  • Remote sensing could/should be used for verification and better model development

    • Difficult to merge data from different types of sensor and sensor schemes.

    • Validation of models is important.

  • Satellite observations is important.


DAY 2

Mariusz Grøtte - Detailed Mission design and analysis

  • 30 % of the time it will not be able to harvest enegry, thus energy budget is important

  • Mission requirements defines several levels of success. See slides

  • Need to characterize the camera to better know what we can do and see.

  • Operational requirements using multiple agents is a future

  • Trade off between spatial resolution and SNR wrt. Focal length

  • For geometrical data there will be used orbit data, as of now.

  • We want to be using adaptive sampling techniques in the satellite as well.

  • Status of the compression pipeline

    • Idletech has a lot of software used for spectral data earlier, these algorithms will adjusted space use.

    • Milicia has developed some of it for the HW we are using. (The MEX-algorithm).

    • Estimated 6 months of development time to make it ready for SmallSat

      • This is a short time

    • It is research and will never be complete (TAJ)

  • Most remote sensing satellites programmes use post-processing, and does not process on board.

  • Have not set the minimum requirements for processing at this time.

  • Plan B is to use RAW data and post-processing, if the processing fails

  • It will be possible to update software on orbit, this is complicated

  • Bug fixes is complicated, and is not a simple thing to do in space

    • It needs to be decided how these fixes will be performed.

  • The range of the sensor has a range of 300 - 1000 nm with less sensitivity at the edges

  • It should always be under 3 watts power consumption, but need to know more about the compression pipeline (Julian).

  • Lossless compression will take a lot of time.

  • Will we be using more energy on compression than we would on down-linking?

    • Probably not (TAJ)

  • Current estimate of processing time consumption will be about 2 minutes

  • We need to tailor our system for the ocean colour community wrt. Type of data

  • Tradeoff between spatial resolution and swath angles

    • Possible to get better spatial resolution than Sentinel.

  • The satellite is not passively stable, and the actuating will be used for stabilizing

  • Electrical propulsion is cost effective, but not perfectly accurate.

    • A gimbal may add error

  • Should do optimization on the camera optics based on SNR.

  • A lot of what you see is due to atmospheric effects.

  • Peak power of 30 watts at satellite, 5 watts peak power on Payload

  • 3 minute operation on peak power ideally

  • Need to position the S-band antenna in a way that makes it possible to down-link

  • Our Cubesat provider will be doing system requirements in parallel.

  • This an ambitious project.


Torbjørn Eltoft - Chlorophyll-a estimation from multispectral remote sensing using ML

  • CIRFA is doing remote sensing of the artics.

  • Optical image is useful to verify and validate remote sensed scenes.

  • Oil slick model dynamics development using JPL/NASA UAV-SAR, SAR images

  • Repeating the basics of oceanographic remote sensing

  • It is not trivial to validate the results you get from remote sensing instruments.

  • At 5 nm spectral resolution we might be able to distinguish between different species of algae or phytoplankton.

  • Most of the pixels you will see from a satellite will be mixed.

    • If they are different enough we might be able differentiate them

    • You will have more information using more bands

  • There a limitations to traditional band based algorithms for extracting chlorophyll content

    • Machine learning can garner interesting results, perhaps even better results

  • There are different ways to calculate chlorophyll, and more data will create better results.


Stian Solbø - Arctic and Ocean remote sensing with Satellites, Airplanes and drones

  • NORUT, using UAVs and satellites to gather data

  • A single SAR image can give information about wind, sea state, ocean surface state etc.

  • It will be beneficial to use the same payload in the UAV as well as the satellite

  • Calibration is important to get useful data for the scientific community

  • NDVI values are the most important for vegetation measurements, can create 3D maps

  • Use a commercial airplane to gather data, existing approach. A lot of paperwork

  • Could put our payload on a high altitude (commercial) plane in an attempt to recreate the condition closer to the conditions we expect to see in space.

  • Dornier DO-228 could be used to calibrate and validate our SmallSat

  • NLIVE - web portal to interact with data gathered by NORUT

  • Should combine HSI, radar and models create high level datasets for Oceanographers


Martin Ludvigsen - Challenges and operations in seabed mapping for marine mining, Arctic andarchaeology exploration

  • Norway might be blessed with marine minerals

  • There are no methods for regional mapping for marine mining as of now.

  • The undersampling is also present when searching for marine mining sites

  • The presence of the instruments generate a lot of light pollution

  • Ship wreck detection (and classification?) using HUGIN generating 3D models.


Jon Harr / Eirik Blindheim - Norwegian SmallSat program – status and strategies

  • Norsk Romsenter - link between government, industry and ESA

  • The ocean is important for norway (6/7 of norwegian territory is sea)

  • The norwegian government wants to have Norwegian satellites in space.

  • Challenges can be counteracted with “new space”-strategies, smallsat approach

  • Even though they have low life expectancy, some satellites far exceeds early estimates

  • AISSat and NorSat are new space success examples.

    • A launch of AISSat 3 now on tuesday! Supposed to make contact 9.00 UTC

  • Several ground stations used to down-link / communicate with NorSat and AISSat

  • AISSat and NorSat provide a more complete registration of ship data

  • The norwegian space center welcomes the HSI SmallSat program

  • Use AISSat data to improve attitude determination

  • The main challenges for our project lies in the following

    • The payload, will it work, will it be able to provide useful data?

    • Will the ADCS be able to accurately control attitude in a satisfactory manner

  • Communication will be dependent on a a lot of factors

    • The data rate will change between every pass

    • An average data rate is more useful than to say what is possible.


Andreas Nordmo Skauen - FFI cubesat-lab

  • FFI research areas contain the fields of electronics, rockets and nuclear energy technology. A very multidisciplinary institute.

  • AISSat program consists of several simple iterations.

  • Experience show that the performance shown in a datasheet is for ideal situations.

  • There is a large need for thermal, vibration and vacuum-testing, FFI have experience.

    • FFI could be a useful asset due to experiences with NorSat and AISSat

  • Cubsat kits can be useful to “play” around with

    • GOMspace and other providers have software development kits

    • There exists 5 day training courses for this (Mariusz was there)

  • It's difficult to model everything (in 3D and scenarios), should build it and throw it around

    • Mainly the cables

  • FFI want to help us

    • Could integrate our payload in their kit, maybe

  • FFI/Andreas is interested in having competence similar to GOMspace at NTNU

  • FFI create realistic test by

    • Simulating communication loss

    • Sun lamps (strong lamps)

    • Thermal chambers, etc.

 

Ajit Subramaniam - extra on remote sensing

  • Be careful about what kind of terms you use when you claim what you are able to see

  • It is important to remember that we are always observing backscattering

    • Limits and magnitudes will affect the inverse relationship

    • CDOM will make it difficult to see low concentration of chlorophyll, not trivial

    • High concentrations of chlorophyll are more trivial to distinguish  

    • Hyperspectral data will provide useful insight not gained from multispectral

  • Atmospheric correction is complicated

    • A lot of the signal will be lost due to atmospheric effects i.e. aerosols

    • By slewing there might be problems with BRDF

    • Uncertainties at 30 % is not uncommon for oceanographers.



Discussions and next steps

  • The derivatives will be great as a HSI

    • Need high SNR

  • Algorithms only using the slope will not work well in type 1 waters

  • Multivariate analysis might give great unknown insight

    • Need to be compared with traditional methods

  • Who are we producing this data for?

    • Clarify the objective.

  • We want to be relevant to the ocean colour community

    • It is ambitious

    • We have have have the flexibility to work on different use cases but need something to work towards

  • Idle tech algorithm will use soft modeling to meet the models of oceanographers

  • Valuable spatial resolution of oceanographers is anything between [10 … 10 000] meters

  • SNR will get better by several overpasses, speaks for non-nadir views

  • Better spatial resolution comes at a cost of the size of the payload

  • Propulsion is needed for altitude control, if not placed in the correct orbit

  • There exists polarization filters than can be turned on and off.

    • Might be useful for atmospheric correction.

    • Will come at a significant signal strength cost

    • Saturation is bad, and we will not be able to get good data

  • Need numbers regarding SNR requirements

    • What are NASA and other companies referring to when they say SNR

    • TOA, water reflectance? What wavelengths? All wavelengths?

  • Second order effects need to be characterized.

  • It might be valuable to use several cameras

    • Can replace the slewing

    • Will cost power consumption

    • Slewing is not the difficult part

    • Use different cameras for different wavelengths

    • During the slew maneuver it is reasonable to expect high accuracy.

    • Might use mirrors (nah)

    • Redundancy is a nice thing to have in space.

    • More cameras is more complex and we should not try to drown ourselves

  • Could be useful to increase SNR at the cost of spectral resolution

  • Should consider changing the lens diameter to gain better signal.

    • Could be done, should be done


Everything should be available at the Dropbox folder as of now